Comments on: The Benoit Tragedy: Two Years On And It Still Hurts http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/ Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:25:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: superok http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18822 superok Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:04:48 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18822 every.1 is sad about wacko jacko dat abused kids yet dey want 2 remmmeber him 4 his entertainment wat about chris beniot and d entertainment he gave 2 every.1 in the world aswel if yous can forgive wacko jacko and just remmeber him 4 his entertainment y not forgive and remmeber chris beniot 4 his entertainment aswel. every.1 is sad about wacko jacko dat abused kids yet dey want 2 remmmeber him 4 his entertainment wat about chris beniot and d entertainment he gave 2 every.1 in the world aswel if yous can forgive wacko jacko and just remmeber him 4 his entertainment y not forgive and remmeber chris beniot 4 his entertainment aswel.

]]> By: Booker T http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18812 Booker T Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:19:47 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18812 Thank you, Scarlett. Thank you, Scarlett.

]]> By: Scarlett Harris http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18799 Scarlett Harris Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:56:05 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18799 AIC: You raise some good points. I can obviously see why most people think what Benoit did was unforgivable and the WWE is justified in erasing him from their history. As much as I understand that, those are just not my feelings. But I do take comfort in the fact that us wrestling fans will always be able to discuss him without fear of repercussions, and we will indeed be able to access his matches and appreciate him for the great wrestler he was. Booker T: Great point! This kind of thinking seemed to be prevalent in the mainstream media at the time of his death, as I discussed in the article. You can't generalise one person's reasons for doing something onto every single other person who has done the same thing. Imissvintagewrestling: I personally believe that he did suffer from mental problems, whether caused by drugs, concussions, or other circumstances. For someone to commit murder, accidental or otherwise, there has to be some mental abnormalities. AIC: You raise some good points. I can obviously see why most people think what Benoit did was unforgivable and the WWE is justified in erasing him from their history. As much as I understand that, those are just not my feelings. But I do take comfort in the fact that us wrestling fans will always be able to discuss him without fear of repercussions, and we will indeed be able to access his matches and appreciate him for the great wrestler he was.
Booker T: Great point! This kind of thinking seemed to be prevalent in the mainstream media at the time of his death, as I discussed in the article. You can’t generalise one person’s reasons for doing something onto every single other person who has done the same thing.
Imissvintagewrestling: I personally believe that he did suffer from mental problems, whether caused by drugs, concussions, or other circumstances. For someone to commit murder, accidental or otherwise, there has to be some mental abnormalities.

]]> By: imissvintagewrestling http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18717 imissvintagewrestling Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:17:58 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18717 Regarding Chris Benoit- I do not think steroids or brain damage caused him to kill his family. I believe he and Nancy argued and it got out of hand and she ended up dead from it. This happens THOUSANDS of times a year across America, let alone most other nations. All of those people are not on steroids nor do they have brain damage/mental illness. It happens in the moment but there is still no excuse for it. He did not "plot" to kill Nancy, which would indicate a twisted mind. He DID however plot to kill Daniel, which is unforgivable. I think he found himself with no way out(can't pretend Nancy just disappeared into thin air! She was a known devoted mother.) and after much thought decided to "reunite" his family. I am sure it made sense to him in those moments, although the rest of us would have loved to take Daniel into safety and let Chris do what he needed to do. If you compare what Chris Benoit did to his family, to all of the other murder/suicides between family members you will see they are not that dissimilar and do not require the use/overuse of steroids OR brain damage. Human beings are basically self-serving and the instinct would be to do whatever it takes to not get caught. To suggest that "someone" broke into the house, killed Nancy, injected and strangled Daniel hours later, overpowered Chris and strung him up on his workout equpiment, sent out repeated phone messages and text messages at intervals from Chris's phone simply because they were "jealous" of Chris's success- well, that is ludicrous. I did find it interesting that Chris Jericho popped up everywhere afterwards and wholeheartedly agree that it somehow played a part in his return to WWE. Not saying he only went on t.v. to get his job back. I think it was more it put him back in touch with the powers that be. I for one am SO glad to see the cleaning up of the WWE! It was raunchy and nasty and no place for the younger audience it was targeting. When WCW still existed and the Monday night wrestling wars were going on, our household stopped tuning in to WWE because it was so nasty. Wrestling has been around for centuries and we never needed fake boobs falling out of scraps of material to sell it. We did not need foul mouths and sexual innuendo. We did not need our heroes to be x-rated. All you need is good versus evil and people will watch. They always have, they always will. Regarding Chris Benoit- I do not think steroids or brain damage caused him to kill his family. I believe he and Nancy argued and it got out of hand and she ended up dead from it. This happens THOUSANDS of times a year across America, let alone most other nations. All of those people are not on steroids nor do they have brain damage/mental illness. It happens in the moment but there is still no excuse for it. He did not “plot” to kill Nancy, which would indicate a twisted mind. He DID however plot to kill Daniel, which is unforgivable. I think he found himself with no way out(can’t pretend Nancy just disappeared into thin air! She was a known devoted mother.) and after much thought decided to “reunite” his family. I am sure it made sense to him in those moments, although the rest of us would have loved to take Daniel into safety and let Chris do what he needed to do. If you compare what Chris Benoit did to his family, to all of the other murder/suicides between family members you will see they are not that dissimilar and do not require the use/overuse of steroids OR brain damage. Human beings are basically self-serving and the instinct would be to do whatever it takes to not get caught.
To suggest that “someone” broke into the house, killed Nancy, injected and strangled Daniel hours later, overpowered Chris and strung him up on his workout equpiment, sent out repeated phone messages and text messages at intervals from Chris’s phone simply because they were “jealous” of Chris’s success- well, that is ludicrous.
I did find it interesting that Chris Jericho popped up everywhere afterwards and wholeheartedly agree that it somehow played a part in his return to WWE. Not saying he only went on t.v. to get his job back. I think it was more it put him back in touch with the powers that be.
I for one am SO glad to see the cleaning up of the WWE! It was raunchy and nasty and no place for the younger audience it was targeting. When WCW still existed and the Monday night wrestling wars were going on, our household stopped tuning in to WWE because it was so nasty. Wrestling has been around for centuries and we never needed fake boobs falling out of scraps of material to sell it. We did not need foul mouths and sexual innuendo. We did not need our heroes to be x-rated. All you need is good versus evil and people will watch. They always have, they always will.

]]> By: Booker T http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18695 Booker T Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:26:39 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18695 On the issue of Steroids; if "roid rage" was the cause of these murders as so many people suggest, then why aren't all those other families of Wrestlers, who were doing steroids (which was much more prevelent in the 80's) dead? On the issue of Steroids; if “roid rage” was the cause of these murders as so many people suggest, then why aren’t all those other families of Wrestlers, who were doing steroids (which was much more prevelent in the 80’s) dead?

]]> By: jarred bright http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18689 jarred bright Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:36:28 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18689 I think you may have some basis to your Triple murder theory, Tinamims. Remeber the post on Wikipedia that happened hours before the Fayetteville County Police discovered the bodies? I think you may have some basis to your Triple murder theory, Tinamims. Remeber the post on Wikipedia that happened hours before the Fayetteville County Police discovered the bodies?

]]> By: AIC http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18688 AIC Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:24:58 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18688 This is directed more toward the other comments rather than what Scarlett has written. The evidence that has been disclosed to the public overwhelmingly supports a murder-suicide. So, like...come on, guys. At the time of his death, Benoit was probably my favorite wrestler to watch in the ring and I still watch his matches on DVD every couple months or so. I loved Chris Benoit the performer. On the "Hard Knocks" DVD, he comes across as a decent guy who seems genuinely awestruck and appreciative of his good fortune in life...almost like a little boy who can't quite believe his dream has come true. I think it's safe to say that this was probably the person he TRULY was and he wasn't acting. His promos are proof positive that his acting skills were about equal with the average porn star. BUT... How can anyone in their right mind blame WWE for trying to erase him from their history? He was a MURDERER. He didn't get caught smoking dope or grabbing the baby-sitter's ass, he MURDERED HIS OWN WIFE AND CHILD. I'm sorry if that seems harsh, but it's NOT. It's the TRUTH. And with his crimes, he brought down an endless sh*train of bad publicity and scrutiny on both the industry he claimed as his "mistress" and the men he called "brothers". So, in spite of all this, WWE is supposed to uphold his place in wrestling history? John Wayne Gacy was very active in the Springfield, Illinois Democratic Party and local charities. He did a lot of good in his life, but raping and murdering a double-digit number of young boys has a way of erasing one's benevolent deeds. I'm sure the people who knew him have erased as much of him as possible from their histories...as they are justified in doing. WWE are COMPLETELY justified in not wanting the ghost of a murderer prancing around their product. The Chris Benoit we all loved in the ring is STILL THERE on our DVDs. You can download a huge portion of his career if can't find non-edited DVDs. WE don't have to erase him just because WWE, justifiably, are. Murder is murder. Stop thinking with your hearts and use your brains. This is directed more toward the other comments rather than what Scarlett has written.

The evidence that has been disclosed to the public overwhelmingly supports a murder-suicide. So, like…come on, guys.

At the time of his death, Benoit was probably my favorite wrestler to watch in the ring and I still watch his matches on DVD every couple months or so. I loved Chris Benoit the performer.

On the “Hard Knocks” DVD, he comes across as a decent guy who seems genuinely awestruck and appreciative of his good fortune in life…almost like a little boy who can’t quite believe his dream has come true. I think it’s safe to say that this was probably the person he TRULY was and he wasn’t acting. His promos are proof positive that his acting skills were about equal with the average porn star.

BUT…

How can anyone in their right mind blame WWE for trying to erase him from their history? He was a MURDERER. He didn’t get caught smoking dope or grabbing the baby-sitter’s ass, he MURDERED HIS OWN WIFE AND CHILD. I’m sorry if that seems harsh, but it’s NOT. It’s the TRUTH.

And with his crimes, he brought down an endless sh*train of bad publicity and scrutiny on both the industry he claimed as his “mistress” and the men he called “brothers”. So, in spite of all this, WWE is supposed to uphold his place in wrestling history?

John Wayne Gacy was very active in the Springfield, Illinois Democratic Party and local charities. He did a lot of good in his life, but raping and murdering a double-digit number of young boys has a way of erasing one’s benevolent deeds. I’m sure the people who knew him have erased as much of him as possible from their histories…as they are justified in doing. WWE are COMPLETELY justified in not wanting the ghost of a murderer prancing around their product.

The Chris Benoit we all loved in the ring is STILL THERE on our DVDs. You can download a huge portion of his career if can’t find non-edited DVDs. WE don’t have to erase him just because WWE, justifiably, are.

Murder is murder. Stop thinking with your hearts and use your brains.

]]> By: Lazar http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18682 Lazar Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:41:16 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18682 I can agree with Tina, all we have is a police report, no one was actually there to witness the crimes and after all it wouldnt be the first time the Police looked for an easy way out or graped the first scapegoat. I can agree with Tina, all we have is a police report, no one was actually there to witness the crimes and after all it wouldnt be the first time the Police looked for an easy way out or graped the first scapegoat.

]]> By: Scarlett Harris http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18672 Scarlett Harris Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:22:21 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18672 Tinamims: I don't believe that Benoit was murdered; most of the evidence points toward him committing the crime. However, I know Keelan Balderson has been researching the issue and has some questions of his own in regards to the police handling of the case, and an article should be up on the site in the near future. It's been discovered that Benoit suffered brain injury as a result of twenty years in the business, and a possible mental illness is what caused him to murder Nancy and Daniel. Asking why he didn't do the same to his first wife and children is like asking why a murderer chooses those he kills and not every single person out there. There's no doubt the wrestling community should be pulling together to remember Benoit for the man he was, not the man he became on that June 2007 weekend. Tinamims: I don’t believe that Benoit was murdered; most of the evidence points toward him committing the crime. However, I know Keelan Balderson has been researching the issue and has some questions of his own in regards to the police handling of the case, and an article should be up on the site in the near future.
It’s been discovered that Benoit suffered brain injury as a result of twenty years in the business, and a possible mental illness is what caused him to murder Nancy and Daniel. Asking why he didn’t do the same to his first wife and children is like asking why a murderer chooses those he kills and not every single person out there.
There’s no doubt the wrestling community should be pulling together to remember Benoit for the man he was, not the man he became on that June 2007 weekend.

]]> By: Scarlett Harris http://wrestlingtruth.com/news/the-benoit-tragedy-two-years-on-and-it-still-hurts/comment-page-1/#comment-18670 Scarlett Harris Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:16:35 +0000 http://wrestlingtruth.com/?p=5614#comment-18670 LifetimeWrestlingfan: Domestic violence is probably the issue that I, and many, have most overlooked. I have witnessed domestic violence first hand, and I have absolutely no tolerance for it. It's hard to put aside the actual murders to see the past offenses committed previously by Benoit against Nancy, and come to terms with murder as the ultimate form of domestic violence, as you said. It's hard for me to get my head around it, and as I said, it's a very confusing situation. As far as the new kids-oriented program, I think it sucks too. If you think back to before the Attitude era, WWF was struggling with immature gimmicks and tired storylines. Guys like Stone Cold and D-Generation X, and the Monday Night Wars, injected some much needed life into the product and made it as successful as it is (or was) today. This is a massive step backward in my opinion. We'll see what happens though... LifetimeWrestlingfan: Domestic violence is probably the issue that I, and many, have most overlooked. I have witnessed domestic violence first hand, and I have absolutely no tolerance for it. It’s hard to put aside the actual murders to see the past offenses committed previously by Benoit against Nancy, and come to terms with murder as the ultimate form of domestic violence, as you said. It’s hard for me to get my head around it, and as I said, it’s a very confusing situation.
As far as the new kids-oriented program, I think it sucks too. If you think back to before the Attitude era, WWF was struggling with immature gimmicks and tired storylines. Guys like Stone Cold and D-Generation X, and the Monday Night Wars, injected some much needed life into the product and made it as successful as it is (or was) today. This is a massive step backward in my opinion. We’ll see what happens though…

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