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		<title>By: Sharp Shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharp Shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another concise and thoughtfully written column James, well done.

Totally agree with everything you have written.

I would remind our readers of when Bret Hart was WWE Champion, and how he believed in him self, and the title
&quot;as the best there is, the best there was,and the best there every will be!&quot;
He brought some much prestige to the WWE Championship Title, he earned it for begin the best techincial wrestler on the roster of that time. Unlike Hogan who was built as a uber marketing machine, and given the title and used it like a prop.
History has repeated it self with Cena, who is basically the Hogan of today. Who doesn&#039;t really need the title to get him over anymore, or sell more merch.

I totally marked out when Jeff Hardy finally won the WWE Title.
I still think it is good for bussiness to put the title on some one that is has worked hard, and is totally over with the fans.

It made no sense to put the title on CM Punk, only to squash him,
as the transitional champ. I personally think Punk is a messy worker, and can&#039;t cut a promo and will forever be a mid carder, at best an IC champ. CM Punk never drew PPV buys as WHC

I too think its laughable that Edge has won WWE/WHC Title in total 9 times is it now? 
HHH&#039;s 13 times now? 

Please Title belts should hold some prestige, not just passed around like props. WWE creative should bring up the mid carders and give them the rub from the main eventers, and use the title belts as incentive.

Having said all that I still enjoy Night of Champions PPV.
With every title on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another concise and thoughtfully written column James, well done.</p>
<p>Totally agree with everything you have written.</p>
<p>I would remind our readers of when Bret Hart was WWE Champion, and how he believed in him self, and the title<br />
&#8220;as the best there is, the best there was,and the best there every will be!&#8221;<br />
He brought some much prestige to the WWE Championship Title, he earned it for begin the best techincial wrestler on the roster of that time. Unlike Hogan who was built as a uber marketing machine, and given the title and used it like a prop.<br />
History has repeated it self with Cena, who is basically the Hogan of today. Who doesn&#8217;t really need the title to get him over anymore, or sell more merch.</p>
<p>I totally marked out when Jeff Hardy finally won the WWE Title.<br />
I still think it is good for bussiness to put the title on some one that is has worked hard, and is totally over with the fans.</p>
<p>It made no sense to put the title on CM Punk, only to squash him,<br />
as the transitional champ. I personally think Punk is a messy worker, and can&#8217;t cut a promo and will forever be a mid carder, at best an IC champ. CM Punk never drew PPV buys as WHC</p>
<p>I too think its laughable that Edge has won WWE/WHC Title in total 9 times is it now?<br />
HHH&#8217;s 13 times now? </p>
<p>Please Title belts should hold some prestige, not just passed around like props. WWE creative should bring up the mid carders and give them the rub from the main eventers, and use the title belts as incentive.</p>
<p>Having said all that I still enjoy Night of Champions PPV.<br />
With every title on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Viper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great column,

I agree with you completely James. Being champion means nothing nowadays, they are won too easily and far too unbelievably. Too many of the title matches are won today via DQ, count out, interference, or because they are &quot;married&quot; to a GM. It is time the WWE move back to the days when a title match was infact a &quot;match&quot;, where both competitors put their all into it, not winning by cheating or stupid storyline endings. Take the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels at WM25. Gave everything they had, put themselves on the line over and over, bringing back Attitude era feeling and effort into making the match believable and worth watching. Then compare to JBL vs Rey. Any Edge title win. Cena ALWAYS winning. Lazy wins and lazy matches. 

Another point is the storylines. Too many of the storylines are similar, unbelievable and not played out fully. Take HHH and Orton, their buildup to WM25 was one of the best for quite a few years, yet the match itself fizzled out shortly after starting. Orton didn&#039;t put in a third of the talent he has to throw the match to HHH, and HHH just put no effort in to make it look convincing. Compare this to the build up for The Rock vs Stone Cold Steve Austin at WM17. Never in the business has a build up been so epic, so electrifying, so captivating and so believable. Why? Both superstars put their all in, everytime. They built the pressure, worked the crowd, annoyed the crowd, worked the crowd some more. But most of all, come match time, they gave solid gold performances, the like of which is just not seen in todays age (bar Taker and Shawn). And there is NO sign of it changing anytime soon, which is a shame as there are some great wrestlers giving their all, but not being rewarded (jeff Hardy, Kofi, John Morrison to name a few).  

Moving on to the likes of &quot;Money in the Bank&quot; matches. Usually these were fantastic matches, where wrestlers put all on the line as they were &quot;desperate&quot; for a title shot. This year, we have a terrible amount of failed moves and bar Shelton Benjamin the safest Ladder match I&#039;ve ever witnessed. Don&#039;t even get me started on Punk&#039;s &quot;victory&quot;. You can&#039;t even put this match in the shadow of the infamous TLC matches of the Hardy&#039;s, Dudleys and Edge and Christian. No effort and no commitment.

One of the biggest travesties of today&#039;s wrestling is the severe LACK of tag team wrestling. Think back to some of the best times of WWF and you think of The Wild Samoans,Hart Foundation, Legion of Doom, Demolition, Hardy&#039;s, Dudleys, Edge and Christian to name a few. Always there was ferocious contest in tag teams. In todays age we HAD John Morrison and the Miz ( could have been very good given the chance) and the Colons ( have the potential to be good but Carlito is too lazy, sorry &quot;cool&quot;.). An absolute disgrace from a fan&#039;s point of view as all we get now is different made up tag teams. We are denied the chance for a team to grow on us, develop storylines or create rivalries.

And last and certainly least is the so called &quot;Women&#039;s&quot; division. I personally am disgusted with the shambolic, and darnright disrespectful way the women&#039;s division is headed. To think of all the effort,the blood sweat and tears of previous wrestling women, (such as Jacqueline, Chyna, Lita, Trish Stratus)to create a foundation and path where women wrestlers were accepted, and respected by the fans and other wrestlers alike, just to have two defunct titles, one held by a &quot;wrestler&quot; who does nothing but flick her hand and her hair,has 3 moves and puts no effort in whatsoever. It has got so bad that at WM they give their so called coveted Miss WM title to a man in drag. They are not taken seriously, and it&#039;s a shame as there are a few who could be very good (Mickie, Michelle McCool and Gail Kim to name a few) but aren&#039;t being given the push.

The only way this will change is if the creative team strip the dead bark and concentrate on making the main storylines believable, yet keeping it about the match and the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great column,</p>
<p>I agree with you completely James. Being champion means nothing nowadays, they are won too easily and far too unbelievably. Too many of the title matches are won today via DQ, count out, interference, or because they are &#8220;married&#8221; to a GM. It is time the WWE move back to the days when a title match was infact a &#8220;match&#8221;, where both competitors put their all into it, not winning by cheating or stupid storyline endings. Take the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels at WM25. Gave everything they had, put themselves on the line over and over, bringing back Attitude era feeling and effort into making the match believable and worth watching. Then compare to JBL vs Rey. Any Edge title win. Cena ALWAYS winning. Lazy wins and lazy matches. </p>
<p>Another point is the storylines. Too many of the storylines are similar, unbelievable and not played out fully. Take HHH and Orton, their buildup to WM25 was one of the best for quite a few years, yet the match itself fizzled out shortly after starting. Orton didn&#8217;t put in a third of the talent he has to throw the match to HHH, and HHH just put no effort in to make it look convincing. Compare this to the build up for The Rock vs Stone Cold Steve Austin at WM17. Never in the business has a build up been so epic, so electrifying, so captivating and so believable. Why? Both superstars put their all in, everytime. They built the pressure, worked the crowd, annoyed the crowd, worked the crowd some more. But most of all, come match time, they gave solid gold performances, the like of which is just not seen in todays age (bar Taker and Shawn). And there is NO sign of it changing anytime soon, which is a shame as there are some great wrestlers giving their all, but not being rewarded (jeff Hardy, Kofi, John Morrison to name a few).  </p>
<p>Moving on to the likes of &#8220;Money in the Bank&#8221; matches. Usually these were fantastic matches, where wrestlers put all on the line as they were &#8220;desperate&#8221; for a title shot. This year, we have a terrible amount of failed moves and bar Shelton Benjamin the safest Ladder match I&#8217;ve ever witnessed. Don&#8217;t even get me started on Punk&#8217;s &#8220;victory&#8221;. You can&#8217;t even put this match in the shadow of the infamous TLC matches of the Hardy&#8217;s, Dudleys and Edge and Christian. No effort and no commitment.</p>
<p>One of the biggest travesties of today&#8217;s wrestling is the severe LACK of tag team wrestling. Think back to some of the best times of WWF and you think of The Wild Samoans,Hart Foundation, Legion of Doom, Demolition, Hardy&#8217;s, Dudleys, Edge and Christian to name a few. Always there was ferocious contest in tag teams. In todays age we HAD John Morrison and the Miz ( could have been very good given the chance) and the Colons ( have the potential to be good but Carlito is too lazy, sorry &#8220;cool&#8221;.). An absolute disgrace from a fan&#8217;s point of view as all we get now is different made up tag teams. We are denied the chance for a team to grow on us, develop storylines or create rivalries.</p>
<p>And last and certainly least is the so called &#8220;Women&#8217;s&#8221; division. I personally am disgusted with the shambolic, and darnright disrespectful way the women&#8217;s division is headed. To think of all the effort,the blood sweat and tears of previous wrestling women, (such as Jacqueline, Chyna, Lita, Trish Stratus)to create a foundation and path where women wrestlers were accepted, and respected by the fans and other wrestlers alike, just to have two defunct titles, one held by a &#8220;wrestler&#8221; who does nothing but flick her hand and her hair,has 3 moves and puts no effort in whatsoever. It has got so bad that at WM they give their so called coveted Miss WM title to a man in drag. They are not taken seriously, and it&#8217;s a shame as there are a few who could be very good (Mickie, Michelle McCool and Gail Kim to name a few) but aren&#8217;t being given the push.</p>
<p>The only way this will change is if the creative team strip the dead bark and concentrate on making the main storylines believable, yet keeping it about the match and the title.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how when I finally do an article that has no mention of John Cena and still a John Cena discussion crops up. He sticks to wrestling like a bad smell.

For me John Cena was a bad champion, if for nothing else then because his title matches were always built and went down the same way. Cena would be the underdog due to lack of either size, ability, or numbers and would be against ludicrous odds. Then just as it looked like there was no way he could win he would pop up and deliver an F-U after being beaten down for ages.
It just wasn&#039;t realistic and it lost me a lot of respect for him.
Then after being put over by guys like Jericho, Angle and Triple H the WWE let Cena be beaten by Edge, it was just annoying.

If you enjoyed him as champion that&#039;s fine but you have to admit that Cena was painted as this kind of superman who could come back from anything. Maybe you like that, for me it just destroys the suspension of disbelief that professional wrestling works with. That&#039;s why it&#039;s fine for kids to like John Cena, because they believe it&#039;s real, so he literally is their superman. I don&#039;t think I will ever be able to understand how anyone else can stomach the guy with his cheesy promos and dated gimmick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how when I finally do an article that has no mention of John Cena and still a John Cena discussion crops up. He sticks to wrestling like a bad smell.</p>
<p>For me John Cena was a bad champion, if for nothing else then because his title matches were always built and went down the same way. Cena would be the underdog due to lack of either size, ability, or numbers and would be against ludicrous odds. Then just as it looked like there was no way he could win he would pop up and deliver an F-U after being beaten down for ages.<br />
It just wasn&#8217;t realistic and it lost me a lot of respect for him.<br />
Then after being put over by guys like Jericho, Angle and Triple H the WWE let Cena be beaten by Edge, it was just annoying.</p>
<p>If you enjoyed him as champion that&#8217;s fine but you have to admit that Cena was painted as this kind of superman who could come back from anything. Maybe you like that, for me it just destroys the suspension of disbelief that professional wrestling works with. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s fine for kids to like John Cena, because they believe it&#8217;s real, so he literally is their superman. I don&#8217;t think I will ever be able to understand how anyone else can stomach the guy with his cheesy promos and dated gimmick.</p>
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		<title>By: jarred bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>jarred bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THe best title run i have seen in the past 5 years is John Cena&#039;s first title rein, He defended it to the likes of JBL, Chris Jericho, Christian, Edge. He went from rapping week to week. then winning the title a rarely speaking on the mic just match after match. I do remember Trish Stratus holding the title for a year and a half with almost a year of from injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THe best title run i have seen in the past 5 years is John Cena&#8217;s first title rein, He defended it to the likes of JBL, Chris Jericho, Christian, Edge. He went from rapping week to week. then winning the title a rarely speaking on the mic just match after match. I do remember Trish Stratus holding the title for a year and a half with almost a year of from injury.</p>
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		<title>By: dorkstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorkstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 04:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hank you have a point about the three week reigns as opposed to Cenas long reigns. The problem with John Cena and why real wrestling fans hate him is because he hasn&#039;t changed in years. Its the same shit week after week. He&#039;s also a kiss ass that represents the downfall to the creativity of the art... The kids! We been into it for years yet they make it for people who will most likely ditch it in a few years. Cena is their hero. It was the same thing with Hulk Hogan. How many stars of the 80s never had a belt because Hogan had it ALL the time! Get tired of it all you want but unless Cena changes his act or heel turns he will continue to get heat from REAL wrestling fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hank you have a point about the three week reigns as opposed to Cenas long reigns. The problem with John Cena and why real wrestling fans hate him is because he hasn&#8217;t changed in years. Its the same shit week after week. He&#8217;s also a kiss ass that represents the downfall to the creativity of the art&#8230; The kids! We been into it for years yet they make it for people who will most likely ditch it in a few years. Cena is their hero. It was the same thing with Hulk Hogan. How many stars of the 80s never had a belt because Hogan had it ALL the time! Get tired of it all you want but unless Cena changes his act or heel turns he will continue to get heat from REAL wrestling fans.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can people leave cena alone. im not even a fan of the guy and im sick of people saying how he devaules a title. how the fuck can one man devalue the title when he has strong and long title regins. but i guess edges 3 week regins help so fuckin match. cena works damn hard and im tired of fuckin noobs complaining about him with the same old arguments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can people leave cena alone. im not even a fan of the guy and im sick of people saying how he devaules a title. how the fuck can one man devalue the title when he has strong and long title regins. but i guess edges 3 week regins help so fuckin match. cena works damn hard and im tired of fuckin noobs complaining about him with the same old arguments</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - hate to be annoying but yes he did. He hit the Clothesline from Hell on Punk on Monday Night Raw on the 9th of March this year to win his first (and most likely only) IC title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; hate to be annoying but yes he did. He hit the Clothesline from Hell on Punk on Monday Night Raw on the 9th of March this year to win his first (and most likely only) IC title.</p>
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		<title>By: backupgoalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>backupgoalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john cena isnt championship material...he cheapens the belt...him w/ his set of 5 moves.  freaking poser.  i hate him...he&#039;s ruining the wwe and the title, whether he has it or not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john cena isnt championship material&#8230;he cheapens the belt&#8230;him w/ his set of 5 moves.  freaking poser.  i hate him&#8230;he&#8217;s ruining the wwe and the title, whether he has it or not</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>punk didnt lose it to jbl...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>punk didnt lose it to jbl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m probably just being picky about the whole &#039;World Heavyweight&#039; thing, but if I tell someone who isn&#039;t into wrestling that Rey Mysterio is the Heavyweight champion and show them a picture it just looks silly to them. If it was just the &#039;World&#039; title then fine but weight classes should mean something in athletic competition, even if it is scripted.
Plus it&#039;s just a personal thing but I&#039;d rather see one great cruiserweight match than a hundred &#039;David vs. Goliath&#039; matches, which is what you get more often than not when you mix the weight classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably just being picky about the whole &#8216;World Heavyweight&#8217; thing, but if I tell someone who isn&#8217;t into wrestling that Rey Mysterio is the Heavyweight champion and show them a picture it just looks silly to them. If it was just the &#8216;World&#8217; title then fine but weight classes should mean something in athletic competition, even if it is scripted.<br />
Plus it&#8217;s just a personal thing but I&#8217;d rather see one great cruiserweight match than a hundred &#8216;David vs. Goliath&#8217; matches, which is what you get more often than not when you mix the weight classes.</p>
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